Prolobe Online Absolute Pitch Ear Training

I've been using F.E.T. for a couple weeks now doing at least 200 correct questions day. I can now tell all the scale degrees in a Major cadence 90%+ of 200 questions...

Now what do you recommend. I've done I think all the things you've previously mentioned about random white keys because I started with David L. Burdge's A.P.

Didn't complete it but I'm curious how to not use M.T.'s as well as get better at hearing these things absolutely as well as just some practical application of all these skills I'm learning. Geiz.

- Co!in

if you are able to recognize random three note chords (restricted to the diatonic C major scale), then you must follow up with a few things:

make sure you are able to do the same exercise in at least one other major key.

learn how to discern chord function by ear -- begin with I and V in all major keys (Chord ID is the best place to start).

learn how to dictate melodies beginning with basic melodies in C major.

find a program that'll randomly generate melodies within whatever parameters you specify (I'd get Melodic ID to start).


Find a big book of graded melodies if you can. I have specific instructions if you ever even bother to do this, so be sure to ask.

you can also refine your scale-degree recognition even further by learning how to hear pitches in your head before you sing them. Burge tries to do this with his students, but for various reasons fails. Get Bruce Arnold's materials.

Hey nik, I think you miss understood my question really.
I mean after establishing a key center I can tell what note is being played... I can not quite determine each note in a 3 note chord my post was a continuation of or conversation in this thread but you didn't notice it so post posted a new one.

http://prolobe.com/forum/showthread.php?thread=1420&replies=24

take a look there and I think you'll understand my question better.

Thanks allot for all the help. I'm making progress. >:D

hey if you still don't have the white keys down, then compile a series of ear training tracks as follows:

random three note chord

bottom pitch

chord again

middle pitch

chord again

top pitch

chord again

try to compile at least five of such tracks and then go on a walk. If you do it this way then you can easily get thirty minutes of ear training done each day (... or whenever you see fit).

If you wanna begin testing yourself in other keys, then you would do well to first establish the appropriate key center.

ah, but I didn't answer your question. Would you please be so kind as to restate your dilemma again?

The problem is I think people do rationalize PP in the wrong way. If you don't have a system of memory, you're never going to hear pitches "absolutely".

The best way is to train PP atonally and ignore the RP cues.

this is all relative pitch training my man. still, I don't see how atonal pitch recognition drills are gonna develop AP considering that all they ever did is develop my RP. I'm not saying that a twinge of AP isn't there, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it that. maybe I'll come back to AP training at a later date, but that'll be from the vantage point of musical literacy. So yeah my advice? Do harmonic and melodic dictation first, and then after you are able to transcribe your favorite jazz solos and hear everything that is going on for instance in a Beethoven sonata (all of them), then come back to perfect pitch ear training.

I'm glad to hear you vent, I'm trying to write a book, so I'm trying not to vent....b/c my knowledge is sacred to me now. :)

Nik, you'd end up a better musician given your enthusiasm than me. :)