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Two big misconceptions about perfect pitch: perfect pitch is NOT atonal perfect pitch is NOT absolute each pitch takes on a radically different character depending upon the key one is in --- for instance, G in the key of C sounds very different from the G of Ab or the G of D. |
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| 2009-12-26 15:34:47 | ||||||||
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That's the thing I have: tonal hearing. For example I can name all the pitches in C major but when it gets to black keys I hear the B flat as E in C major scale, so actually I'm hearing the degrees of the scale? So I can learn each pitch in all scales...but if the music suddenly changes the tonality what can I do? |
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| 2009-12-28 11:05:30 | ||||||||
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Sorry to tell you, but you're only partially correct. One of my good friends who I just talked to about this very thing (and who has real perfect pitch) said that while each pitch has a different character in different keys, no matter what he can always give an instant, absolute, atonal judgment of a specific note in a song. He says he doesn't understand how other people don't hear the difference, because the pitches to him sound so distinct and so unconnected to anything else. If you hear them as connected to the key they're in, you're not using perfect pitch. |
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| 2009-12-28 15:31:51 | ||||||||
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Maybe I'm understanding something wrong, but I hear G as G and C as C no matter what the key. I think when you listen relatively they sound different in different keys. Like a G as a major chord in the key of G and a minor chord in the key of Bb major. |
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| 2009-12-29 04:48:52 | ||||||||
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Maybe that's because I trained so much in the key of C that now my ear is kind of lazy to listen for colors so it listens superficialy to get it quicker with RP.But how could I name chords because I never know what interval exactly it is. Lol! :) |
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| 2009-12-29 05:51:45 | ||||||||
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Here's a great link for musical hearing - http://www.musicawareness.com/index.html Prolobe yes trains your ear but it is such a great jump to go from prolobe to real music, that you are wasting a lot of valuable time. |
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| 2010-01-03 16:13:10 | ||||||||
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I agree with you. I hear music in an absolute way - there is no messing me up with atonal music, I'm right on the money everytime without having to make an effort at all. When I hear tonal music I hear the relationships also, but each key has a different effect on me. I think that relative pitch training works against your ear (that's just my opinion - and I'm as classically and seriously trained as you get, having studied for a long time and with great master teachers at different schools). I hear atonal music the best, something I really enjoy. Still, the unique character (to me) of each note stands out and I can identify where I'm at based on that. My trouble is that I have some slight hearing loss and the damn fugly mangled clusters in the low end confuse me, so I can never get past 16 (started this course a couple of days ago) so that I can get to 23 where I really can cook (but the fugly bass clusters will get me I'm sure - I was already confirmed as having perfect pitch in my student years, so this is a neat challenge for me, Prolobe). |
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